circular dichroism
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- malwi
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circular dichroism
Dear Yambo Team,
how to set input for circular dichroism?
I tried just to use BSE with BSKmod= "IP" and BSEprop= "dichr"
and it stopped before the end.
Is something published using this piece of code?
With best regards,
Gosia
how to set input for circular dichroism?
I tried just to use BSE with BSKmod= "IP" and BSEprop= "dichr"
and it stopped before the end.
Is something published using this piece of code?
With best regards,
Gosia
dr hab. Małgorzata Wierzbowska, Prof. IHPP PAS
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
- Daniele Varsano
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Re: circular dichroism
Dear Gosia,
can you post your input/report/log files in order to see where the codes does stop?
Best,
Daniele
can you post your input/report/log files in order to see where the codes does stop?
Best,
Daniele
Dr. Daniele Varsano
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
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- malwi
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Re: circular dichroism
Thank you very much Daniele. I attach the report file.
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dr hab. Małgorzata Wierzbowska, Prof. IHPP PAS
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
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Re: circular dichroism
Dear Gosia,
it would be useful to look also at the input file and one of the log files to see where it stops.
Also see if in one of the log files there is any error message.
You can upload the log and input without converting in pdf by changing the nell of the file with one of the allowed suffix e.g. .txt
Daniele
it would be useful to look also at the input file and one of the log files to see where it stops.
Also see if in one of the log files there is any error message.
You can upload the log and input without converting in pdf by changing the nell of the file with one of the allowed suffix e.g. .txt
Daniele
Dr. Daniele Varsano
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
http://www.nano.cnr.it
http://www.max-centre.eu/
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- malwi
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Re: circular dichroism
Dear Daniele,
there is an error in some of the log files.
These errors refer to reading dipoles - I attach the error file.
My procedure was two step:
[1] epsilon (input below) with writing to dir "bse-2"
2. BSE kernel with "dichr" instead of BSE, reading data from dir "bse-2"
(input attached)
Thanks a lot!
there is an error in some of the log files.
These errors refer to reading dipoles - I attach the error file.
My procedure was two step:
[1] epsilon (input below) with writing to dir "bse-2"
Code: Select all
rim_cut # [R] Coulomb potential
em1s # [R Xs] Static Inverse Dielectric Matrix
dipoles # [R ] Compute the dipoles
Chimod= "HARTREE" # [X] IP/Hartree/ALDA/LRC/PF/BSfxc
CUTGeo = "ws xy"
CUTwsGvec= 0.700000
% BndsRnXs
1 | 600 | # [Xs] Polarization function bands
%
NGsBlkXs= 6 Ry # [Xs] Response block size
% DmRngeXs
0.10000 | 0.10000 | eV # [Xs] Damping range
%
% LongDrXs
1.000000 | 1.000000 | 0.000000 | # [Xs] [cc] Electric Field
%
(input attached)
Thanks a lot!
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dr hab. Małgorzata Wierzbowska, Prof. IHPP PAS
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
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Re: circular dichroism
Dear Gosia,
the error can be probably be solved by removing the ndb.dipol* files and let yambo recalculate them.
Next, as I already told you, the circular dichroism in the GPL release can be calculated only at in independent-particle level "IP", the CD in BSE framework
it is present in a developer's version and it is actually in phase of testing.
Best,
Daniele
the error can be probably be solved by removing the ndb.dipol* files and let yambo recalculate them.
Next, as I already told you, the circular dichroism in the GPL release can be calculated only at in independent-particle level "IP", the CD in BSE framework
it is present in a developer's version and it is actually in phase of testing.
Best,
Daniele
Dr. Daniele Varsano
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
http://www.nano.cnr.it
http://www.max-centre.eu/
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
http://www.nano.cnr.it
http://www.max-centre.eu/
- malwi
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Re: circular dichroism
Dear Daniele,
Thank you a lot!
CD works and looks similar to the experiment when I play with a number of bands and electric field.
Just a few more questions:
1. You said that it is only for the case of Gamma, yes?
When I give only the first k-point or all k-points, results do not change.
But the system is weakly interacting (almost dissociated), thus it might be a good approximation.
2. It would be good to have the equations implemented in this calculation.
3. There is also an anisotropy factor in the experiment.
It is defined as g = (I_L − I_R )/(I_L + I_R )^1/2 with left and right polarized light.
I attach input/output files for your check. There is still an issue of the energetic shift
of the CD spectrum - like it was in the BSE spectrum (taken from GW or hyb-DFT).
Actually, after the hyb-DFT calculations, the experimental truth is between hyb-DFT and GW.
Best regards,
Gosia
Thank you a lot!
CD works and looks similar to the experiment when I play with a number of bands and electric field.
Just a few more questions:
1. You said that it is only for the case of Gamma, yes?
When I give only the first k-point or all k-points, results do not change.
But the system is weakly interacting (almost dissociated), thus it might be a good approximation.
2. It would be good to have the equations implemented in this calculation.
3. There is also an anisotropy factor in the experiment.
It is defined as g = (I_L − I_R )/(I_L + I_R )^1/2 with left and right polarized light.
I attach input/output files for your check. There is still an issue of the energetic shift
of the CD spectrum - like it was in the BSE spectrum (taken from GW or hyb-DFT).
Actually, after the hyb-DFT calculations, the experimental truth is between hyb-DFT and GW.
Best regards,
Gosia
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
dr hab. Małgorzata Wierzbowska, Prof. IHPP PAS
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
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Re: circular dichroism
Dear Gosia,
1) Yes, I think that it is implemented for gamma only, actually I do not know what the code does in presence of a k point sampling. Someone else could answer on that
2) If I'm not wrong it is the trace of the equation 2.13 you can find in the paper D. Varsano et al Phys. Chem. Chem. Phys., 2009, 11, 4481–4489
3) What is I here, the absorption? so it is a frequency dependent quantity? If so, the numerator is the CD itself, but you do not have access to I_R and I_L separately.
About the shift, take into account the you are in independent particle framework, so excitonic effect are not present. Such effects should shift your CD spectra to lower energies.
@Davide, can you confirm that?
Best,
Daniele
1) Yes, I think that it is implemented for gamma only, actually I do not know what the code does in presence of a k point sampling. Someone else could answer on that
2) If I'm not wrong it is the trace of the equation 2.13 you can find in the paper D. Varsano et al Phys. Chem. Chem. Phys., 2009, 11, 4481–4489
3) What is I here, the absorption? so it is a frequency dependent quantity? If so, the numerator is the CD itself, but you do not have access to I_R and I_L separately.
About the shift, take into account the you are in independent particle framework, so excitonic effect are not present. Such effects should shift your CD spectra to lower energies.
@Davide, can you confirm that?
Best,
Daniele
Dr. Daniele Varsano
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
http://www.nano.cnr.it
http://www.max-centre.eu/
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
http://www.nano.cnr.it
http://www.max-centre.eu/
- malwi
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Re: circular dichroism
Thank you Daniele.
I am just thinking:
if we need a sum of absorption/emission with right and left polarization (I_R+I_L),
would it be proper to take just the absorption with the same approximation (to replace dichr by abs in the same input)?
I am just thinking:
if we need a sum of absorption/emission with right and left polarization (I_R+I_L),
would it be proper to take just the absorption with the same approximation (to replace dichr by abs in the same input)?
dr hab. Małgorzata Wierzbowska, Prof. IHPP PAS
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
Institute of High Pressure Physics Polish Academy of Sciences
Warsaw, Poland
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Re: circular dichroism
Dear Gosia,
yes the absorption mediated on the three cartesian direction should be the quantity you need.
Bsst,
Daniele
yes the absorption mediated on the three cartesian direction should be the quantity you need.
Bsst,
Daniele
Dr. Daniele Varsano
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
http://www.nano.cnr.it
http://www.max-centre.eu/
S3-CNR Institute of Nanoscience and MaX Center, Italy
MaX - Materials design at the Exascale
http://www.nano.cnr.it
http://www.max-centre.eu/