exciton binding energy

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exciton binding energy

Post by samaneh » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:01 pm

Hi Developers,
Would you please explain how we can estimate binding energy of exciton??
(Is it "bandgap - first exciton peak")
What is the difference between bright and dark exciton?
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S. Ataei, University of Tehran, Iran
S. Ataei, PhD student at University of Tehran, Iran.

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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by Daniele Varsano » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:13 pm

Dear Smanaeh,
Binding of an exciton: QP band gap - excitation energy of the exciton you are interested in.
Bright -> finite oscillator strength (intensity)
Dark --> zero or very small intensity (so no optically active).

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Daniele
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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by samaneh » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:04 am

Dear Daniele,
Thanks.
But if I want to compare exciton binding energy with PL peak
which excitation energy should be considered???
(Is it the first peak of imaginary part of the epsilon function??)
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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by Daniele Varsano » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:27 am

Dear Samaneh,
PL can be very hard to describe, it really depends on the physics of your system if comparing with the first excitation is a good approximation or not.
Anyway, you can discuss it with your colleagues and collaborators, this is not a question strictly related with the code.
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Daniele
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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by samaneh » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:57 am

Thanks a lot.
1- would you please explain what are the data in o.eel output file ???
2- There are a lot of data for constant dielectric function(w=0) in the output file(o.eps)
but according to the experimental data there is
just one value for it, how should we compare them??
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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by Daniele Varsano » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:29 am

1- would you please explain what are the data in o.eel output file ???
It is the eels spectrum (electron energy loss), essentially 1/eps_M(w).
2- There are a lot of data for constant dielectric function(w=0) in the output file(o.eps)
but according to the experimental data there is
just one value for it, how should we compare them??
As you can see in the top of the file you have:

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 E/ev[1]    eps /Im[2] eps /Re[3] eps0/Im[4] eps0/Re[5]
Energy, Im(eps(w)), Re(eps(w)), Im(eps0 (w)), Re(eps0(w)).
eps0 is the dielectric function calculated in the independent particle approximation.
So, this is not the static dielectric function, the static values is the one corresponding to E=0. The static dielectric constant is the real part.

All this info are explained in the tutorials.

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Daniele
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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by samaneh » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:18 pm

Dear Daniele,
Cartesian coordinates in ypp.in for hole position is
a.u. or angstrom??
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S. Ataei, PhD student at University of Tehran, Iran.

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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by samaneh » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:26 pm

Dear daniele,
Does yambo -b mean the static dielectric with E=0???
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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by Daniele Varsano » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:35 pm

Dear Smaneh,
simply typing yambo -H
you can see:

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-h		:Short Help
 -H		:Long Help
 -J <opt>	:Job string identifier
 -V <opt>	:Input file verbosity
		 [opt=RL,kpt,sc,qp,io,gen,resp,all]
 -F <opt>	:Input file
 -I <opt>	:Core I/O directory
 -O <opt>	:Additional I/O directory
 -C <opt>	:Communications I/O directory
 -N		:Skip MPI initialization
 -D		:DataBases properties
 -S		:DataBases fragmentation
 -M		:Memory distribution (parallel runs)
 -i		:Initialization
 -o <opt>	:Optics [opt=(c)hi is (G)-space / (b)se is (eh)-space ]
 -k <opt>	:Kernel [opt=hartree/alda/lrc/hf/sex]
		        (hf/sex only eh-space; lrc only G-space)
 -y <opt>	:BSE solver [opt=h/d/(p/f)i]
		        (h)aydock/(d)iagonalization/(i)nversion
 -c		:Coulomb interaction
 -x		:Hartree-Fock Self-energy and local XC
 -d		:Dynamical Inverse Dielectric Matrix
 -b		:Static Inverse Dielectric Matrix
 -p <opt>	:GW approximations [opt=(p)PA/(c)HOSEX]
 -g <opt>	:Dyson Equation solver
		 [opt=(n)ewton/(s)ecant/(g)reen]
 -l		:GoWo Quasiparticle lifetimes
 -a		:ACFDT Total Energy
it is the static inverse dielectric matrix (w=0!). It is the entire matrix epsm1_q(G,G') to be used in a BSE calculation and *not* the macroscopic dielectric constant. You do not have any output.

Daniele
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Re: exciton binding energy

Post by samaneh » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:47 pm

Thanks.
But how can I calculate the dielectric constant (E=0) with yambo code???
S. Ataei, PhD student at University of Tehran, Iran.

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