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Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:57 am
by Daniele Varsano
Dear Shudong,
it is not clear to me what do you mean by "transition dipoles including e-h pairs?
What are you interested in exactly?

Daniele

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:05 am
by sdwang
Dear Daneile,
I want to know the BSE exciton transition dipole of the system.

Thanks!

SD

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:16 am
by Daniele Varsano
Dear Shudong,
sorry, but I don't get it. Transition dipoles are calculated on the basis of KS wave function.
What you want are the dipole moments for a given excitation weighted by the BSE eigenstate?
i.e.
for a given excitation lambda:
|\sum_cv Acv_lambda*<c|r|v>|^2

Daniele

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:23 am
by sdwang
Dear Daniele,
I think you are right. Waht I need is the the dipole moments for a given excitation. For example, I want to know the dipole of the first exction in the BSE absorption. Where I can get it?

Thanks!

SD

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:03 pm
by Daniele Varsano
Dear Shudong,

ok, correct if I've not well understood, you want to look at the intensity (oscillator strength of the excitation), so the expression I reported above, which is built as a linear combination of dipole moments weighted by the BSE eigenvector right?

This is calculated by ypp when sorting excitation and reported as intensity (o.exc_I_sorted).
In the output file, the values are normalized to the max value of the intensity, in the recent versions of yambo the max value is reported in the output as:

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 Maximum Residual Value=
Best,
Daniele

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:05 pm
by sdwang
Daniele Varsano wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:19 pm
*Short explanation:
Read the dipole variable i<v|r|c> and <v|P|c>.
The dipole variable has 4 indexes that are:
1: Valence index from 1 to Nv (python index start from 0)
2: Conduction index from 0 to Nc (0 is the first conduction band up to the last calculated)
3: Direction 0,1,2 --> x,y,z
4. 0/1. real and imaginary part
Dear Daniele,
Just a question for sure. In the script you mentiond, 1 means the VBM, and 2 is VBM-1, 3 is CBM and 4 is CBM+1? Right?

Thanks!

Best
Shudong

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:13 pm
by Daniele Varsano
Dear Shudong,
actually I do not know of what script you are talking about, anyway if the script it is meant to read dipoles databases,
is sound strange to me that it could be:
1 means the VBM, and 2 is VBM-1
as valence bands are ordered from the first band computed to the VBM, while for conduction the index runs from CBM to the last band computed.
Best,
Daniele

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:04 pm
by sdwang
Dear Daniele,
Thank you for the quick reply. Yes I mean the read dipole script.
I extend the script to include more valence and conduction bands (in current scriot is 2v+2c).
My sytem has 16 valence bands, so if I want to konw the dipole between VBM and CBM, I shoud giveit as:
print ("<16|p|17>=",DIP_P[15,0,0],DIP_P[15,0,1],DIP_P[15,0,2],sqrt(abs(DIP_P[15,0,0])**2+abs(DIP_P[15,0,1])**2+abs(DIP_P[15,0,2])**2))

Am I right?

Thanks!

Shudong

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:09 pm
by Daniele Varsano
Dear Shudong,
yes, it seems correct.

Daniele

Re: Optical matrix elements

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:00 pm
by sdwang
Dear Daniele,
I got the dipole moments of 2 layer MoS2 and it is as:
Dipole P
('<52|p|53>=', (4.8576367e-05+0.00028422844j), (-0.00020457263+3.4868885e-05j), (-8.9401248e-05+1.5234437e-05j), 0.0003666550846841008)
In which the modules is 0.0003666550846841008. And I used it to compare with the μS^2(I used as 0.0003666550846841008X27.2114^2 eV to transfer it into the unit of eV,right?), which is the square modulus of the BSE exciton transition
dipole using Yambo in paper "Exciton Radiative Lifetimes in Two-Dimensional Transition Metal Dichalcogenides, Nano Lett. 2015, 15, 2794−2800". and it seems
my results here is several orders of magnitude less than the published paper. But my absoption and quasiparticle quantites are almost the same as that in the paper.
What's the problem?

Thanks!

Best wishes,

Shudong