Dear All,
How does Yambo caculate the real part of the complex dielectric function: epsilon_1? I mean what's the equation, in (yambo -b -o b -y h) and (yambo -o c).
Thank you very much
Sincerely, Yunfeng
Epsilon_1
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Epsilon_1
Yunfeng Liang
Department of Physics and Engineering Physics
University of Saskatchewan
116 Science Place
Saskatoon S7N0K4, SK, Canada
Email: yul059@mail.usask.ca, liangyunfeng@gmail.com
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Department of Physics and Engineering Physics
University of Saskatchewan
116 Science Place
Saskatoon S7N0K4, SK, Canada
Email: yul059@mail.usask.ca, liangyunfeng@gmail.com
Tel: +1(306)966-6213
Fax: +1(306)966-6400
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Re: Epsilon_1
Dear Yunfeng,Yunfeng wrote: How does Yambo caculate the real part of the complex dielectric function: epsilon_1? I mean what's the equation, in (yambo -b -o b -y h) and (yambo -o c).
Yambo always calculates the full, complex, response function. To understand how it does it look at the these pages of the dicumentation: LR, Response, BSE solvers.
If something will remain still unclear let us know and we will help you.
Andrea MARINI
Istituto di Struttura della Materia, CNR, (Italy)
Istituto di Struttura della Materia, CNR, (Italy)
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Re: Epsilon_1
Dear Andrea.
Thank you very much! I was actually just confused with one of previous post by Myrta elsewhere. I got a feeling that the epsilon_1 was calculated by Kramers-Kronig relation. see below:
My understanding is that EEL relies only on epsilon_1 and epsilon_2 by
EELS= epsilon_2/(epsilon_1^2+epsilon_2^2).
If both are calculated in direct way, we need not use the Kramers-Kronig relation, though it is also good.
Thanks
Sincerely, Yunfeng
Thank you very much! I was actually just confused with one of previous post by Myrta elsewhere. I got a feeling that the epsilon_1 was calculated by Kramers-Kronig relation. see below:
Myrta wrote: The warning regards the eel, so you should worry only if you want to calculate it . Within the Tamm Dancoff approximation for the BSE, this spectra is obtained from the eps one, and a Kramers-Kronig has to be performed. In order for this transform to be accurate you should choose the energy range in such a way that the Im(eps) is (approx.) zero at the beginning and at the end of the range.
My understanding is that EEL relies only on epsilon_1 and epsilon_2 by
EELS= epsilon_2/(epsilon_1^2+epsilon_2^2).
If both are calculated in direct way, we need not use the Kramers-Kronig relation, though it is also good.
Thanks
Sincerely, Yunfeng
Yunfeng Liang
Department of Physics and Engineering Physics
University of Saskatchewan
116 Science Place
Saskatoon S7N0K4, SK, Canada
Email: yul059@mail.usask.ca, liangyunfeng@gmail.com
Tel: +1(306)966-6213
Fax: +1(306)966-6400
Department of Physics and Engineering Physics
University of Saskatchewan
116 Science Place
Saskatoon S7N0K4, SK, Canada
Email: yul059@mail.usask.ca, liangyunfeng@gmail.com
Tel: +1(306)966-6213
Fax: +1(306)966-6400
- andrea marini
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Re: Epsilon_1
Dear Yungfeng,Yunfeng wrote: Thank you very much! I was actually just confused with one of previous post by Myrta elsewhere. I got a feeling that the epsilon_1 was calculated by Kramers-Kronig relation. see below:
Myrta wrote: The warning regards the eel, so you should worry only if you want to calculate it . Within the Tamm Dancoff approximation for the BSE, this spectra is obtained from the eps one, and a Kramers-Kronig has to be performed. In order for this transform to be accurate you should choose the energy range in such a way that the Im(eps) is (approx.) zero at the beginning and at the end of the range.
My understanding is that EEL relies only on epsilon_1 and epsilon_2 by
EELS= epsilon_2/(epsilon_1^2+epsilon_2^2).
If both are calculated in direct way, we need not use the Kramers-Kronig relation, though it is also good.
Myrta is right in what concerns the EELS. In the case of the Bethe-Salpeter the use of the Tamm-Dancoff approximation imposes to use a Kramers-Kronig integration to build the negative frequency part of the response function to buil the EELS. In the reciprocal space solvers (-o c), instead, there is no need of using a KK transformation. So, I was right in the sense the Yambo always calculate the full complex response function. However in the case of the BSE you get only the resonant part of epsilon_1, that is not enough to build the EELS.
Andrea MARINI
Istituto di Struttura della Materia, CNR, (Italy)
Istituto di Struttura della Materia, CNR, (Italy)